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fu ([personal profile] fu) wrote in [site community profile] dw_beta2012-03-24 01:20 pm

New JS on Journals: Last Call

We're planning on taking the "new JavaScript on journals" changes out of beta soon and making the changes the default for the entire site, so we've done a push today that adds the last few (reported) missing features, and fixes the last few (reported) really annoying behaviors.

There's always going to be one thing more though, so please make sure that you turn on beta for the new JS on journals, and tell us how that new JS works for you -- or doesn't work, if that's the case.

I'm interested in hearing about everything that's bothering you, no matter how tiny it seems! The sooner we know, the sooner we can fix it. (Just this code push, we fixed two things that seemed tiny: one was the hover menu fading way too quickly, another was how the attempt to change your poll vote would bring to you to a separate page instead of changing your vote on the page you were on. They were both things we missed at first, but once they were brought to our attention, we couldn't stop seeing them. And now they're fixed!)

So poke around, and let us know what you find. If you're looking for something to focus on, here's a short list of things we recently added or fixed:

  • added same-page comment tracking

  • fixed same-page changing of poll votes

  • added displaying errors when comment expansion fails to work

  • fixed hover menu fading away even when you didn't move your mouse

  • fixed the .cuttag-open CSS class so it applies to the contents of the opened cut tag (the way the old JS did), for people who want to customize this in their styles

  • made the bottom arrow jump you to the top of the cut tag, without affecting page forward/back



Assuming there are no major issues, we'll turn on the "new JS on journals" beta flag for everyone with our next code push for one last round of testing with the whole site, not just the people who've turned on the beta version. We'll keep it as a beta option at that point, so if anyone has serious problems, they can disable the beta and go back to the old JS while we fix the problem. After that, we'll take this code out of beta and make it the standard option for everyone, removing the old (existing) JavaScript entirely. So, if something's wrong, speak up now!
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[personal profile] northern 2012-03-24 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
The hover menu for icons (you have subscribed to fu!) on my friends page doesn't go away at all, even though I move my mouse away. It doesn't go away until I actually click somewhere else. Is that a feature or a bug? (The same thing seems to work differently for example for the commenting page, which I am on now to write this comment - the menu stays about a second or so after I've removed the mouse from the icon, but then goes away.)
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[personal profile] kareila 2012-03-24 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
The delayed fadeout is a new feature - I think it was staying on indefinitely before, at least in the beta.

For me the hover menu on the reading page works as expected the first time, but then it flashes off immediately if I bring the same one up again. (Using Google Chrome.) Definitely some inconsistency there.
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[personal profile] northern 2012-03-24 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
I should say that I'm using Firefox, on Windows 7 Home Premium.
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[personal profile] widowmaker 2012-03-24 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm having the same experience (over userheads, I have the icon popup turned off). Also a Firefox and Windows 7 user.
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[personal profile] unicorn 2012-03-24 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
The extra rows combined with the fullsize icons in the new icon selector gives me visual fatigue; I went into it a little more here. I would love it if we could at least have size options on the selector like we did in the previous one.
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[personal profile] memorable 2012-03-24 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm also having problems with this! The number of icons in a row plus the size of the icons is way too much for me to handle.
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[personal profile] all_that_glitters 2012-03-24 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yes this! I'd like it more with less columns and options for sizes.
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[personal profile] antreegonist 2012-03-24 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yeees, this, especially with over 200 icons to sort through.
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[personal profile] unwieldyfate 2012-03-24 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Hi! I wanted to second the visual fatigue issue with the new icon browser. It gets especially bad in premium accounts with over 150 icons, I think. Though in my case I believe it's more a matter of the width+showing so many icons per row—I find it more difficult to scan icons that way.

It may very well be a case of getting used to change, but I wanted to add my .02 anyway.
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[personal profile] basilmemories 2012-03-24 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Same here! I brought it up here, but just to ass the technical parts:

My main browser on the pc is firefox 10.2, I'm using the most recent android browser, and the laptop was chugging along on firefox 6 or 7 or so, it needs updating.

I'd like to see some size or column options for this, I understand that you don't intend to alter the size options? but I can't run greasemonkey on my phone (which I'm on more and more these days), at least not without using android's firefox, which is a steaming hot mess and a memory hog on my device.
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[personal profile] basilmemories 2012-03-24 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
*assess I. Thank you for that typinghands, stay classy.
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[personal profile] nevergetscredit 2012-03-24 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
I am having the same issue. But the fullsize icons in the previous browser never gave me that problem, so I'm not exactly sure what's causing it for me this time. Possibly it might be the white colour of the browser? Somehow when it's on top of the greyed out page it looks kind of bright and glaring.
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[personal profile] articletwelve 2012-03-24 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
Slightly contrary to those above, but I love this icon browser's width and size and just being able to sort through so many icons without as much scrolling. The one nagging thing is that the browser doesn't remember it when I click "Images only" or "Show meta text" past that particular instance. Is this something that can be set or cookied in some way, or is it stuck as something to pick every time? I'd happily just use images only all the time, but since there's no way to stick with it I never bother with the setting.

Also, not sure if I should mention stuff about the Create Entries beta here, but there's one thing on that that drives me nuts -- the title attribute on the main entry textarea. Whenever I'm writing something that involves a lot of coding, or just selecting text in general, or if I simply leave my cursor there, the bubble pops up and gets to be very annoying. I know that it's important for accessibility to label the textarea, but it would be a lot less frustrating if it were using the alt attribute instead so that it didn't constantly pop up.
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[staff profile] denise 2012-03-24 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, it remembers the setting (icon only / meta text) for me. What browser and OS are you using?
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[personal profile] articletwelve 2012-03-24 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
The latest version of Chrome, and Windows 7. I've tried getting it stick before, but no luck.
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[staff profile] denise 2012-03-24 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. Can you enable the JS console (View -> Developer -> JavaScript Console), then try opening the icon browser and switching views, and see if there are any errors in the console?
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[personal profile] articletwelve 2012-03-24 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Done, but nothing pops up! There's also no cookie created, if one is supposed to be.
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[personal profile] pocketmouse 2012-03-24 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm having this, too. Mouse over the icon, leave it there for a few seconds, and the move the mouse away, and the hover menu stays up. I think it's a bit too long to call it a delay. It's stayed up the entire time it took me to write this comment. To get it to go away, I have to mouse over again (sometimes twice). And mousing over something else doesn't get rid of it. I just moused over someone's icon and their username, and now I have two menus not going away.

I'm on Firefox 10.0.2, Mac 10.5.8.
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[personal profile] lethe1 2012-03-24 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm having problems with the new icon browser in both of my (admittedly very old) browsers.

In Safari (1.3.2), if I click on Browse nothing happens at all. In Firefox (1.0), a window pops up that is so small that I can only see part of one icon, and I need to scroll down to see the rest of it and the keyword, never mind the rest of my icons.

The previous icon browser worked perfectly in both Safari and Firefox, including the options for changing the icon sizes, which is a feature I'd really like to keep.
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[personal profile] zaluzianskya 2012-03-25 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Size options would be great. Since some people have issues with the fullsize images and others (myself included) hated the smaller images, what about making it just default to whatever you chose last? That was my main issue with the old browser, that it would always default to smaller images even though I preferred the fullsize ones.
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[personal profile] momijizukamori 2012-03-25 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed on the old size behaviour! Though I definitely like having more than two columns in the new browser, too :)
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[personal profile] thenormalsquint 2012-03-25 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Directed here by Denise. I cleared my cache and cookies, rebooted both my computer and my browser and the problem with Expand All hanging and freezing remains. I'm on Firefox 7.0.1 with Adblock, Adblock Element Hider, and Ghostery (which I tried whitelisting DW on thinking it would help, but nope.)
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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-03-25 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I've actually been having issues expanding comments for some time, but I've been opted into the beta for months, just had no idea it was beta related. I have two computers and it only happens on one of them. The other works perfectly fine and is nearly the same setup except OS is different since it's newer.

Affected computer has following setup:

OS: Windows XP (fully updated)
Browser: Firefox 3.6.4
Add-ons: Adblock plus, greasemonkey, ljlogin, noscript (and DW is fully allowed), session manager, tab counter, tab mix plus, tabs menu and youtube to mp3

The computer that works uses same version and has all those add-ons but a few additional ones like Stylish. Only other difference is it uses Windows 7 instead of XP. I can provide a more detailed list of add-ons for the working one later once I'm off work.

And on this computer, expanding works fine in Chrome, but I hate using Chrome on this computer because it will give me a BSOD once a day.
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[staff profile] denise 2012-03-25 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Just to gather some data/run some quick exclusion tests:

* If you disable the extensions on the computer you're having problems with, does the problem go away?

* If you only disable LJLogin, does the problem go away? (We have had many, many reports of LJLogin causing all kinds of grief in various ways -- if you're looking for something that will easily let you log in/log out as various accounts, I strongly strongly recommend CookieSwap or a similar full-cookie-profile-swapping extension, instead of LJLogin, until we can do the main/alternate account system we've been planning for a while!)

* Just to clarify (since your comment could've been taken one of two ways) -- is the affected computer the one that Chrome works on, or is that a different computer? In other words: do you have the same problem expanding threads in other browsers on the computer that's having the problem expanding threads in Firefox?
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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-03-25 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, just to clarify, affected computer works fine in Chrome.

And to answer your other comment, it's clean on viruses and malware, just ran scans manually to be on the safe side.

Disabling LJLogin only doesn't help at all. Will try the rest here shortly.

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