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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_beta2015-01-18 08:58 pm

Responsive-design Create Entries page, joining/leaving communities, subscribing/granting access, etc

This code push included responsive redesigns of:

* the beta create entries page
* joining/leaving communities
* subscribing or granting access to people
* many of the site admin areas
* everything in the /tools directory
* and many more.

If you have problems with any of these pages, this is the place to report the problems!

There are several purposes behind our responsive site redesign. Aside from the boring technical ones (making it easier for us to maintain and troubleshoot the code, reducing browser incompatability, giving us more options in terms of designing, etc), the two big ones are:

* Improve the way the site looks and feels on small screens (such as on tablets and mobile devices) without worsening the experience for people using large screens (desktops and laptops).

* Improve the accessibility of the site: make it easier to access the site with screenreaders, interact with the site using alternate input devices, interact with the site using only the mouse or only the keyboard, etc.

This entry is for two things: reporting any actual display bugs or glitches with the pages (in your browser, whether on your computer or on your mobile device), and providing aesthetic feedback about the look and feel of the design.

If you're reporting display bugs or glitches: Please describe the glitch in as much detail as possible. Screenshots would be really helpful, especially if you're only seeing the glitch in one browser but not another, or only on your phone but not on your laptop. (You don't have to check for the glitch on multiple devices, but if you do, let us know which devices have the problem and which don't.)

If you have feedback specifically about the aesthetics or the look of the redesign (you think something needs more padding, want to suggest a different font/color/color combination/background/what-have-you, think something is in the wrong place, that kind of thing): Please be as specific as possible about what you think needs to be changed, or what's bugging you about the way things look. For instance, instead of saying "the header is so ugly and squished now, change it back", say "On my computer, the links in the header don't have enough space between them, so they look like they're running into each other."

(We know that people definitely have strong opinions about the way things should look -- that's why we're doing this incrementally -- but the most helpful feedback is the kind that's specific, concrete, and actionable.)

With all feedback, include the following:

* Which site skin you're using (you can find this on the Display tab of Manage Settings if you don't know)
* What browser and browser version you're seeing the problem in
* What operating system you're using
* What type of device you're using: laptop, desktop, phone, tablet, e-reader, etc. (And if phone/tablet/e-reader, what make and model.)
* What your display resolution is, and what your current browser size is. To check this if you aren't sure: go to and report the following numbers: Browser window width, browser window height, screen width, screen height.

If you're specifically reporting an issue with how the redesign works (or doesn't!) in your assistive technology setup, please also include:

* What assistive technology you're using (name of program, description of setup, etc)
* If it's software, the software version
* If it's workflow related (you find it difficult to navigate using keyboard-only navigation, for instance), a brief description of your workflow and what about the page is making it difficult
cesy: "Cesy" - An old-fashioned quill and ink (Default)

[personal profile] cesy 2015-01-18 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
So, I've reduced my browser font size to something sensible, but the create entries page is still not fitting on my large screen. I think the problem is actually the wide variety of font sizes within the page. If there was less variation, I could just set the default lower or higher and it would work. But there are several bits that appear to be a certain percentage smaller or larger than the default, so if I lower it, they become unreadable or stay too large. And, of course, entries in site scheme haven't switched over, so are unreadably small if I put the size too low for the create page.

For example, in the Icon section, "Browse" and "Random" are several sizes smaller than the keywords drop-down.

The tags bit that says "Characters per tag: 40" has the 40 significantly bigger than the other text.

All the modules seem to have a lot of padding - 1.25rem (how does a rem differ from an em anyway) on fieldset seems to be the issue.

Here's a photo to illustrate:

Latest Chrome, Windows 7, 1920x1080 resolution, maximised browser window, 14pt default font size, 8pt minimum font size, Tropo Purple, laptop with external monitor.
Edited (more system details) 2015-01-18 21:38 (UTC)
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[personal profile] cesy 2015-01-19 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
Aha! Gmail uses 80% of the default browser size. So if I put it to something accurate for Dreamwidth, Gmail becomes unreadably small as well. Which is wrong of Google, but I suspect Dreamwidth may lose that battle.
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[personal profile] fu 2015-01-29 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
rem = use the font size of the root element (html in this case)
em = use the font size relative to your parent element

The distinction is mostly for when you've nested elements with font size adjustments.