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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_beta2011-10-30 11:28 pm
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New Create Entries management page

This post is to report bugs in the new Create Entries page. This is a complete rewrite of the old Update page, in order to allow for future expansion and new features such as draft posts, scheduled posts, recurring posts, expanding the range of what can be posted to your journal, and a whole host of other awesome things.

When reporting bugs, please include:

* The browser name, browser version number, and operating system you're using
* The steps you took to reproduce the problem
* Whether or not you've tested the same steps in another browser (and if so, which)
* Whether you get the same result every time you try the same steps, or if it only happens sometimes

If we can't reproduce the problem under the same browser and operating system, we may also ask you for a list of any browser extensions you have installed.

Not all features are completely implemented in the new Create Entries page yet. The biggest thing currently missing is the Rich Text editor -- the only option is the plain-old-HTML option. The design of the page is geared towards changing concepts and visual/workflow metaphors around what it means to "post an entry", too -- because of the forthcoming draft and scheduled posts, we needed to adapt some of the language and some of the ways we present concepts -- even though the draft and scheduled post functionality isn't ready to be released yet. So, if something looks awkward or like it doesn't quite fit, it's probably there to allow for something we'll be releasing in the future. (You can still mention it, though!)

Things we also consider to be bugs that should be reported, in addition to something not working right:

* if you can't figure out what to do at any step of the update process
* if you have accessibility-related problems (with your screenreader, with the tab order of the page, with the workflow, etc)
* if something about the new workflow completely breaks the way you use your journal, and you can't figure out any way to work around it (there may be a way to do what you're used to doing, but if you can't figure it out, that's something we might change or might want to document, etc)

You can enable or disable beta testing at any point.

Not yet enabled

* Rich Text editing
* Using the new Create Entries page for editing existing entries
* Using the new Create Entries page for comm admins deleting posts or performing admin overrides
* Draft posts of any type, including the in-browser saved drafts that exist right now

Known/Reported Bugs

* some difficulties crossposting, looks like possibly date-related? we're trying to figure it out.

Should be fixed

* Settings not properly saving when using the "gear" customize-this-page popup; some modules disappear
* Create Entries form being repeated after posting an entry
* Error in link to Beta Features at top of page
* Error messages when using new update page in older versions of Firefox
* Difficulties with IE (oh, IE)
* Errors with time being truncated
* inactive icons showing in the icon browser
* minsecurity of journal not reflecting properly in update form
* whole host of display glitches
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[personal profile] sara 2011-10-31 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Why Denise, you've made it look more like...WordPress.

Or like WordPress and LJ had a really exciting weekend at the coast together, and nine months later, a new create entries page was born.

(I would put more white space at the top of the page, but that's just me.)

Also, I have just laughed so hard at the example tags that Herself wants to know what I'm doing.
Edited 2011-10-31 04:28 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sara 2011-10-31 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
I think WP is turning more and more into a complete CMS, which frankly I welcome -- I look at the improvements from the first nonprofit sites I built to the most recent, and I look at the functionality we've added over the years...well, between open source and Google for Nonprofits, things are a lot easier and better now than they were just a short time ago. So, yeah, for journaling, WP is overkill. For what I do with it, it's a gift from the geek gods. ;>

I don't think I'd seen the pumpkinsheep! Aww, pumpkinsheep.
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[personal profile] iosonochesono 2011-10-31 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
I love the WP update page, tbh, and hope to actually get around to blogging where I use more of the features. *snicker* I'm awful at blogging useful content, though. I just wish some of the plugins were actually just default things, like YouTube embed.

(Though I'm talking about self-hosting with an installed WP, not the WP site.)
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[personal profile] sara 2011-10-31 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've never actually done anything with the WP site itself, but I've run various projects off self-hosted installs for some years now.

(Dee, I still don't see any difference in the update page; wasn't the code push you did while I was sleeping the one that was supposed to kick us over into the Brave New World That Hath Such Modules In It?)

(ETA: Never mind, got it. You might update the top-level post for clarity, though.)
Edited 2011-10-31 15:25 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sara 2011-10-31 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, got it.

Have you slept yet?
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[personal profile] sara 2011-10-31 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
*eyerolls* The bugs will still be here after you've had a nap.
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[personal profile] sara 2011-10-31 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
There will always be bugs, dear heart. They're like laundry.
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[personal profile] pauamma 2011-10-31 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a kind of bugs that disappear, like socks?
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[personal profile] sara 2011-10-31 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
When you're someone's mother, the continual reappearance of laundry is more the issue than the periodic disappearance of socks.

(I have a large laundry basket which is devoted to single socks. Every few weeks I go through it and try to match up as many singletons as possible. The basket has yet to get less than half-full, and I know for a fact that friends' single socks have migrated to our house just to get in that basket. It's kind of obscene, really.)
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[personal profile] pauamma 2011-11-02 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)

(Also, I hope that obscenity nothwistanding, the single-socks landry basket is soundproof.)
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[personal profile] silverflight8 2011-10-31 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
That is a pairing idea I had not considered before ;) I suppose Dreamwidth adopted the baby update page.

I am wildly excited to see this new update page, though! I have turned on beta testing in anticipation :P
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[personal profile] sara 2011-10-31 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
I've always hoped DW would go in an "unholy offspring of LJ and WP" direction, personally. ;>
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[personal profile] silverflight8 2011-10-31 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
I admit (with much twinges of guilt from disloyalty) that I've always really liked the cleanness of Wordpress' update page, but it was really confusing for me, being used to LJ. The mockup page looks promising.